This episode was jam-packed. Bree's moment with Zac at dinner where we realize why she's a neat freak was great, and humanized her character for me. Then Zac's moment with Bree, when he touched her hand after she made the police let him go? Perfect. Gabrielle is up the creek! I so don't want her to have to give up her boy-toy. Is that wrong? Lynnette-genius. always. Susan, she went a little over the top about the damn screwdriver and jerk cop was a little too soon in knowing someone to ask them to 'not be a girl' and a 'drama queen' it. Susan's not dating jerks anymore.

Favorite line of the night: Susan, mistaken for a hooker. "No thanks, I'm on a break."

charlie at November 1, 2004 08:33 AM

It's the hair...from this point forward, anyone with perfectly coiffed red hair will be mistaken for Bree. :) I thought the whole police officer subplot was lame...first he's a kind of charming guy, then he's calling Susan "Drama Queen?" Jerk.

Stacy at November 1, 2004 08:49 AM

I have to say, I kind of reacted when you say Zach beat up his own father. It seemed so defensive and self-protective to me. It's more like he stood up to his truly abusive and sick father, rather than him being the one unable to manage his rage. And, Bree's character grew leaps and bounds tonight, though I was disappointed that she would blow off Zach for her husband (who would have understood, if she'd explained postponing dinner). That did seem desperate to me.

J.Go at November 1, 2004 10:01 AM

It seems too simple, but I have always thought Mike was looking into whatever is going on in Mary Alice's house. Although the whole fingerprinting thing blew my theory out of the water, because why he or his boss care about the fingerprints?

ellen at November 1, 2004 10:58 AM

I think the father is mean and probably deserved what he got. However, it was Zach's reaction of total detachment and cool when Bree heard the fight and he answered the door. If he had been fighting him in self-defense, I would expect he would have been emotional. But he wasn't. And the way the father hid his face with felt like a spousal abuse story. Very, very odd dynamic.

I still believe that Zach may be the psychotic one in this family, though.

freakgirl at November 1, 2004 11:24 AM

Yeah, that's the cool thing about this show. I just don't know. I had sympathy for Zach, and was glad he stood up to his dad, but that final second of seeing the father on the floor made me wonder who was the real bad guy in this story. Great television.

j.go at November 1, 2004 11:35 AM

My theory on Mike is that he is like undercover FBI or something. His prints would be on file because he's a fed. Didn't his boss say something about his cover being blown? You only have a "cover" if you are undercover. Anyway, he just can't be a bad guy! Too cute!

But, speaking of Mike, is it just me or was the Mike-Susan storyline a little disjointed? I mean, wasn't he just asking her out like four times last week and she kept turning him down (or giving her date to Edie)? I feel like the onus is on her now for any weirdness there. But, as an aside, part of the Steven Eckholdt storyline was to show us that Susan won't put up with any lying - therefore, what will happen when Mike's secrets come out?

Cheri at November 1, 2004 12:14 PM

Good point, Cheri. I got the feeling that Mike wanted off the "assignment" because he wanted to date Susan - without complications. So if that is her stance it's not going to go well.

I think the kid is innocent. I think he's fucked up by what's happened between his parents and what his father is trying to hide. I just think he'd had enough and that's why he punched his dad.

It's sad that he thinks it's his fault his mother killed herself. Zach is reaching out for a friend, for someone to believe in him, which is why he's getting attached to Bree, who is probably the first person who's even tried to show him a friendly time since the death. I also think that if she forms a friendship with the kid, she might be able to save the relationship with her family...maybe she'll learn something about trying to be there (emotionally) for them, rather than just cooking and cleaning.

Maggie at November 1, 2004 01:39 PM

I have to say I am once again perturbed by the sudden dissappearance of Lynette's other two children. What prestigious academy has she dumped them on? And if she has done that, why are they accepting babies??

Rain at November 1, 2004 03:35 PM

Rain - I thought of that too. Are we not supposed to notice that she has lost both a baby and an older son? No mention was made of the other children, either. Poof, they're gone!

I thought last night's ep was great, but that bothered me throughout the show.

My fave part of the show was Susan's rapport with the hooker. I was disappointed in Steven Eckholdt's character. Ah well.

elizabeth at November 1, 2004 04:46 PM

The reason that Mike might be in the system is as a law enforcement officer.

I think Zach's not the psycho. If the dad was the abused, was the submissive one, why would Zach have willing left with him? If Zach was the one in control (the way it was filmed made it seem that way) and he was/is getting attached to Bree I don't think his dad could have made him leave. Or else the dad drugged him just enough to lower his agression.

mason at November 1, 2004 05:48 PM

Hey, we never saw Chuck after the first few episodes of Happy Days. Or Fluffy the cat on The Brady Bunch. So, I'll just assume that Lynette's two kids were shipped off to Australia and, um, are currently starring on Lost.

freakgirl at November 1, 2004 05:55 PM

True, true. However, Chuck and Fluffy were pretty expendable. The fact that Lynette had four kids defined her character. With those other two gone, and the twins back in school, she no longer has a reason to be the harried housewife she is.

Rain at November 1, 2004 06:51 PM

OMG, Chuck!

Mike at November 1, 2004 07:15 PM

I think it's Paul that is messed up...I mean, he drugged his son a few shows ago...I think the son has just seen a lot of bad stuff between the parents.

I think Mike is total law enforcement and that Paul and Mary Alice were in the Witness Protection Prgram for Paul being a mob-snitch.

I'm LOVING Lynett from start to finish.

And honestly, I think the show was much better WITHOUT Nicolette's character. She's the most unrealistic, boring one. Too obvious..they'd do well to dump her character.

Still loving the show.

Beau at November 1, 2004 10:09 PM

So it seems like Mike is some sort of law enforcement guy or a P.I., but that may be too easy. For some reason this show seems smarter than that. I have a feeling there are and will be many more red herrings.

Undecided about if it's Dad or Zach at this point.

Beau, that's a real interesting theory with the witness protection program.

Bree is more likeable with each episode. One of the best episodes yet.

Chuck at November 1, 2004 11:38 PM

I also loved how Bree was so kind to Mary Alice's son. I think that's exactly how a mother would treat the child of a deceased friend.

Rona at November 2, 2004 07:05 AM

The geekboy thinks that Mike is working for someone whose family or friend came to harm at the hands of someone in Mary Alice's family. I tend to agree with that theory, only because Mike seems like he really likes the neighborhood people; he doesn't have that detachment that you might get with a proper law enforcement officer.

freakgirl at November 2, 2004 07:11 AM

At this point I am waiting for a lady holding a log to turn up and tell us that the owls are not what they seem. And maybe a nice "35 years later" scene where Julie does a strange herky-jerky dance in a red-curtained room while clutching a blackened measuring cup.

Also, I hope Bree kicks in some more doors soon.

brian w at November 2, 2004 10:52 AM
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