Much juicier than last week's dud. Everyone on this show is asking for trouble. Pharmacist guy is making me very uneasy and I think he most certainly fucked with Rex's pills. I also think that Bree will be framed for giving him the pills. Not sure what to think about Dana. I can't decide if she really is alive or if he just said it to get CREEPO son to shut up. My instinct is that she is dead. Also, did anyone notice how his son said "Dad" after they got home from the dance? It sounded to me like dad really isn't Dad afterall...

chuck at January 24, 2005 09:03 AM

I noticed that, too. Interesting.

freakgirl at January 24, 2005 09:09 AM

Chuck- I agree with you on all points. I called the medication thing when Bree and CP were in the diner. He got a certain look on his face as she talked about feeling obligated to take care of Rex and give him his meds. And Lynette- Hate. Whether she agrees with her FIL's life choices or not is one thing, but why does she feel compelled to get all up in his business? I cannot stand her! When she was "threatening" Tom by telling him that she'd take the kids and leave if she ever found out he cheated on her, I so wish Tom would have responded with- "Wow, well in that case there's something I've been meaning to tell you..."

gabi at January 24, 2005 10:57 AM

what was with Gabrielle eating the peanut butter out the that supposed to be some hint to us that our Gabi might be pregnant???

i can just see a Gabrielle/John reunion - just once - and then having her find out she's it carlos's or john's. ha.

paul and zack are both way way too creepy for me. george is also entering creep territory.

Ali at January 24, 2005 11:56 AM

I thought for sure that Gabrielle would sleep with John as a good-bye or something last night - leading to the inevitable "Whose baby is it?"

I don't get the hate for Lynette. Perhaps she was a little busybodyish but the man was using her house as an affair spot and she and her child walked in on it, so it did become her business. I don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to be a party to the cheating. Why couldn't he stay with the woman if he came into town for that? Now she has to explain to her children and (she thought) her husband what is up with grandpa. Also, what's so wrong with her expecting her husband to remain faithful to her? Umm, don't people make those wedding vows for a reason? If I ever get married, I sure as hell would expect my husband to take his vows seriously. Honestly, I was a little disappointed when they insinuated that Tom cheated on Lynette. That would make every single one of the main women to be involved in an unfaithful relationship, which I personally find sad. Couldn't there be one relationship with problems other than adultery? Although - I'm still not convinced that Tom cheated. I'm sure that's just what they want us to think when he really has a different secret.

Cheri at January 24, 2005 12:07 PM

Did anyone else catch that Mr. Young might not be Zach's father? When they were walking up to their front door at the end of the show and Zach was doing his whole "I-won't-tell-everyone-about-Dana-if-we-don't-move" blackmail thing, he said something like, "That's the way it's going to be 'Dad'." He said "Dad" in a strange way. Don't you think? Am I reading too much into this? Anyone? (OK, I just went back up to the top of the comments and read the postiings. I should do this before posting myself. At least I kow I'm not crazy...)

Lara K-W at January 24, 2005 12:27 PM

I agree, Cheri, if my FIL was cheating on his wife in my own home, he'd be sitting out on the curb, too. It's none of Lynette's business until it was brought into her home. I have no issue with her tossing him out, and I also have no problem with her telling her husband, "Hey, this may be the way your parents' marriage was, but it ain't how ours is."

I also was wondering if Gabrielle and Gardener slept together. I may not have been paying attention, but I didn't even realize she accepted the ring from him. So if we didn't see that, then we presumably didn't see them sleep together. But I'm not sure what I saw and what I didn't.

Heh, I also thought that we saw Gabrielle eating peanut butter out of the jar because that's her idea of what poor people do. Peanut butter and buckets of chicken, apparently. ;)

freakgirl at January 24, 2005 12:30 PM

Is Dana definitely a woman? The blanket that said Dana on it was yellow, not pink, which is suddenly raising big, big flags for me.

I know other characters have referred to Dana as a female but really the only people who know the truth are Paul and now Zach and I can't remember if they used any lady-pronouns in the last few scenes.

Maybe Zach was the product of some kind of creepy incest thing. Not that there's any non-creepy kind. Yikes.

brian w at January 24, 2005 01:14 PM

I thought Zach said, "I killed my baby sister" to Susan's daughter, but I could be wrong.

Is it possible that Zach is Dana?

freakgirl at January 24, 2005 01:43 PM

I thought the peanut butter-eating thing was totally weird for someone like Gabrielle, but a pregnancy is a very plausible explanation.
I also don't see anything wrong with laying down the law like Lynette did. I totally agree with her-- zero tolerance. And if it turns out her husband did cheat, I will be so, so sad. He seemed to be the last guy on the show who was really crazy about his wife (crazy in the good sense, not crazy like the psycho-pharmacist-- Eek!)

Parker at January 24, 2005 10:19 PM

I'm sorry, I just still can't buy Matt Fielding married to Felicity Huffman to begin with.

Anyhow that said, we finally watched our Tivo of it last night. Damn, Ryan O'Neal's gotten a little portly in his silver years. I was a little disappointed John had 2 or 3 scenes all of which he remain fully clothed in. Although I LOLed at "Will you marry me, Mrs. Solis" Damn he's cute. I'd marry him and go live in a little gardener shack. For sure. Also, are we just supposed to not wonder why John's parents are both total wasps and he's so evidently Hispanic?

Oh, BTW, good-but-not-great episode of Boston Legal followed. Mark Valley's boring, I just realized. Sure he's pretty, but can't he just pose in the background or something? The second half of the installment was better than the first... it was more Allen/Murphy/Capt. Kirk heavy, Don't ya know.

S.John at January 25, 2005 10:31 AM

Is George the pharmacist? because Ali up at the top of the comments said that George is "entering" creep territory. Dude, he's been there since his first appearance.

Remy at January 25, 2005 10:31 AM

Oh yeah, And Betty White ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!111

S.John at January 25, 2005 10:32 AM

...raise your hand if you think Creepy Pharmacist messed with Rex's heart medication. Is he not the worst pharmacist ever?

That had to be the funniest line I've read in a while. Does the question even require answering?

Dave at January 25, 2005 12:17 PM

I don't think Gabrielle was eating the peanut butter out of the jar in a pregnant thing, I just think she was making herself a po' peanut butter sandwich now that they can't afford steak. She was in such a hurry to prevent the Garden-Boy Parents from approaching her house that she ran out with the jar.

I think Zach said "Dad" the way he did to feign support of his father, not to insinuate the dude isn't really his dad. Just to say that he'll act like they have a father-son relationship if the dad does what he wants.

Is it possible that Zach is Dana?
Has anyone seen Sleepaway Camp?

Maggie at January 25, 2005 02:13 PM

Of COURSE I've seen Sleepaway Camp. How do you think I got the idea? ;)

freakgirl at January 25, 2005 03:01 PM

Ok, I didn't think Lynette went FAR enough in explaining to her husband that if he cheated she'd leave him. She said she'd take the kids and he'd never see them again. Heck some days he would probably count that as a bonus. If I were in Lynette's position, I would have made it very clear. I would mostly likely have used a ball peen hammer and a canteloupe to visually demonstrate the effect of cheating on me on your head area. Then, I would smile, kiss you gently and skip up to the bedroom.

charlie at January 25, 2005 08:42 PM

I love Sleepaway Camp.

Maggie at January 26, 2005 08:25 AM

Oh, and my two cents about the cheating father-in-law. I would be furious and would want him out of the house as well, not because it's any of my business who he sleeps with, but because he lacked the respect for me and my family by failing to keep it out of our lives. I certainly wouldn't want to be privy to that information and then have to face my mother-in-law. And in my living room? Ugh. As far as the morality business, I would have my own opinion (cheating is so totally wrong!) but I wouldn't discuss that with him at all.

Maggie at January 26, 2005 08:28 AM

I've got a question about the Zach/Dana thing. In an earlier episode, didn't some investigators find a toy chest at the bottom of a lake or river that contained human ADULT bones? The investigators went to a carpenter who had designed toy chests and he identified it as one he had made. Right? Did he say that he had records of the people to whom he had sold the chests? Did the chest say Dana on it? If Dana's still alive, what gives with the bones? Didn't we see Zach's father taking this chest out of the house in one of the early episodes? Do you think the bones are Deidre's?

Lara K-W at January 26, 2005 12:48 PM

Yes, adult bones. No, the chest did not say Dana, the baby blanket said Dana. Yes, investigators to the chest maker with leads. Hmmm...perhaps Deidre's bones, but what's her connection with the Krazy Phamily? I want to know.

Maggie at January 26, 2005 07:02 PM

All the mentions of Dana being a girl, being a baby, being killed by Zach came in the first 2/3rds of the episode -- and as far as I can tell, Zach was incorrect about the whole thing and Paul was lying to Susan (to throw her off the trail? To keep Julie away from Zach?). From the point in the car where Paul tells Zach the "truth" about Dana, no more feminine pronouns were used by either of 'em. I watched it again to make sure.

brian w at January 27, 2005 06:07 PM

Tom likes it up the bum. Come on, somebody has to have a gay secret. And since it's not Rex...

gigamatt at January 28, 2005 09:11 AM
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