Ugh, Andrew is a little shit. How does Bree think he is going to heaven, anyway, after the whole Mrs. Solis thing? Especially taking into account that he certainly wasnt remorseful and he doesnt respect his parents. He has broken a shit-ton of the commandments, before even considering the possible gaydom.

I'm pissed at Gabby for actually using John's credit card. What the fuck was she thinking there? The best thing would be for her to take it, so he feels important, but then for her not to use it. Ugh. She is shitty. That said, I cant wait for the episode where she figures out she is pregnant.

megan. at April 18, 2005 10:26 AM

I'm getting so over this show, but as my husband pointed out last night, we have to watch the rest of the season to see what happens. But Gabby? Is a soulless freak and that is so boring to watch. Ditto Susan's mom. But FG, I don't think that was a priest, I think he was more of a minister.

Joanne at April 18, 2005 10:29 AM

Re: the Church guy--

It was all very ambiguous. Andrew made him swear on a Bible, which makes me think that he was a Reverend and not a Priest (because the confidential nature of a confession is obvious). Also, Bree kept calling him "reverend." But, at the same time, while at church they crossed themselves. I'm not Christian, so I dont really know, but I always thought that only Catholics crossed themselves.

megan. at April 18, 2005 10:34 AM

Hmmm. Sorry, I thought Bree was calling him "Father," but I must have misheard.

Either way, Andrew is still a creep.

freakgirl at April 18, 2005 10:36 AM

So the minister/priest/pastor swore on a Bible, and now he won't tell Bree that her son is going to try and basically give her a massive coronary? Whatevs!

Also, from that scene, on the gay issue: "I'm not gay." "You're not?" "Nooooot Reeeeally." ... "Just so I'm clear, are you a heterosexual or aren't you?" "I love vanilla ice cream, OK? But every now and then I'm probably gonna be in the mood for chocolate, know what I'm sayin'?"

I guess that makes Ryan Carnes chocolate. Mm, chocolate.

brian w at April 18, 2005 01:09 PM

That reminds me of an old 'kids in the hall' skit.

"No, he's not gay. He told me he just occasionally has sex with men to prove to himself he doesn't like it."

Todd at April 18, 2005 01:30 PM

Gosh, who *knows* what Andrew likes to do. It's the least of his worries right now, what with the disrespectfulness, the manslaughter, the pot smoking, the drinking...

I felt like Bree's blurting-out at the dinner table about S&M; was a little "Rex cries when he ejaculates" for me. I was like, "been there, done that."

It was another episode where they are moving towards a finale, and attempting to close up some loose ends, while building up for the finale.

Dead body, possibly Zach's mom? and does that mean Mike the Hot Plumber is really Zach's dad???

Gaby ... who does the baby belong to? Who cares? Will Rex collapse in the finale, gasping for breath, as his prescription killer-pills take effect? Will Bree find out that Andrew has decided to distribute his own line of gay porn on the internet? lol.

Keith at April 18, 2005 02:10 PM

7 comments (this will be 8)?? This show really has cooled off.

I blame Teri Hatcher.

todd at April 18, 2005 05:00 PM

I know, todd. I was thinking the same thing. Do you think it's the vast overexposure of the show? Although that doesn't seem to have had an effect on Lost.

freakgirl at April 18, 2005 06:03 PM

DH IS totally overexposed at this point. With the arrival of the new Vanity Fair in my mailbox, with its cover photo and tales of catfights, I realized that I am now officially sick of the show.

oolookitty at April 18, 2005 07:49 PM

Anybody catch the little Desperate Housewives bit on Arrested Development last night?

(For those who missed it, George Michael's girlfriend's church group protested outside Marc Cherry's house. He was yelling "it's a satire! it's a satire!" out the window at them, heh heh)

brian w at April 18, 2005 09:37 PM

That was so great.

I'm still enjoying DH, I'm still totally interested in the whole Young family mystery. I think the show will work out the kinks. And, Alfre Woodard is joining the cast on the season finale, so some new blood might be fun.

freakgirl at April 18, 2005 10:22 PM

I think you nailed the problem FG, the show still has some kinks. I love the Young mystery storyline, I run hot and cold on the Bree family story line, Lynette bothers me more often than not, and I can't stand anything to do with Gabrielle or Susan. Well, more Susan.

I would like more Edie, less Susan, and a little bit more focus on the storylines and lose some of the schtick...

With that said, I am still tuning in every Sunday.

Todd at April 19, 2005 08:27 AM

Yeah, I am enjoying it, but it isnt appointment TV for me. I dont tape it and I dont make a huge effort to be home for it (but because of its time, usually I am).

My big problem with Bree is that I cared more about her relationship with her husband than I do with her son. It's like her son just went batshit insane all of a sudden. Pre-show he was just as perfect as his sister, and then he flipped out over Bree's fancy cooking one day and has been down hill since then. I dont get it and I dont care.

I agree-- they need to focus more on Edie. Gabby is another one OK to focus on, because even though she is completely self-centered and I cant relate to her at all, she at least isnt frustrating to watch. She has some perfect comedic timing and her self-centeredness is funny. I dont find Susan's dippiness or Lynette's poor parenting funny at all.

megan. at April 19, 2005 08:35 AM

I don't think Lost has been nearly as over hyped as DH, though. I mean, those women were on Good Morning America every day for like two weeks in a row! And my husband would agree that it's Teri Hatcher's fault, boy does he hate her. I think I've said this before, but my sister pointed out that it seems like every week they're making up stuff to fit the through line, instead of having a through line from the beginning. I think that's why we see such varied amounts of the characters - like why don't we see Mrs. Whatshername's sister more? And why do we see so much of Susan acting flustered? Sheesh.

Joanne at April 19, 2005 11:06 AM

I see everyone's point. Why blame Teri Hatcher, though? She's not writing the scripts.

I am trying to keep in mind that this is a show that's still in its first season. Melrose Place took about two to three seasons to really start kicking ass all over the place, so I don't have many complaints.

freakgirl at April 19, 2005 11:20 AM

I'm with Freakgirl. Not sure I understand the hate of Teri Hatcher's character. Whether her plotlines are more or less compelling each week, she represents one of the four distinct character "types" the writers are playing with. The name of the show is "Desperate Housewives," which implies strongly (to me) that we're dealing housewives who are each desperate in some way. Bree for the love of her family. Lynette for respect. Gabby for money and sex. And Susan for love.

I've always assumed that part of the pretense of the show is that each main character is a stereotype ... maybe even a modern archetype. What's more, we're never given any expectation that these characters will "evolve" out of their extreme type -- they simply are who they are, and always will be. Which means it's almost impossible for people (particularly women) to sympathize with ALL four women at once, depending on his/her own personality type.

Also, I wonder if it's really the character of Susan that some people hate or Teri Hatcher herself. Because people keep saying things like, "It's all Teri Hatcher's fault." And if this is the case, then it really has nothing much to do with the writing or with Susan's plotlines. It's more similar to the way I get irrationally irked while watching Rob & Amber on The Amazing Race.

GeekBoy at April 19, 2005 11:54 AM

I personally have no problem with Teri Hatcher the actress or the person. Its the character I dislike, Just a preference to use her real name sometimes I guess.

Todd at April 19, 2005 12:27 PM

Yeah, I actually love Teri Hatcher (residual love from Lois & Clark, I guess), but I really dislike Susan. I used to like her character, but the last few episodes have irked me. I'd still rather have her on my screen, though, over Lynette or Bree's son.

megan. at April 19, 2005 12:33 PM

Yeah, I agree. It's not Teri Hatcher's fault. Susan might be kind of annoying lately, but isn't Teri just reading her script?

Personally, I don't get the complaints about the show and the characters at all. It's a friggin' soap opera, people. Maybe it stems from the fact that I've watched soap operas my whole life and I understand what they are and what they aren't and yes, they can be annoying and unrealistic at times, but they are supposed to be entertainment. This one is pretty entertaining, whether you like every single storyline that takes place every week or not. Yes, the current Susan storyline is annoying - send her mom packing please and get her back together with Mike.

Cheri at April 19, 2005 12:36 PM

To quote Marc Cherry on Arrested Development this week (again), "IT'S SATIRE!!!"

Hee. I'm still giggling over that.

freakgirl at April 19, 2005 12:50 PM

What's sad with the Susan storyline is that they introduced her mother as a character ... and then the daughter more or less ceases to exist. I thought part of the charm of Susan was the reversed relationship with the daughter. The least they could do is hit us over the head with some compare & contrast of the differences between the relationship Susan has with her daughter and her mom. Or let the mother and granddaughter interact at all, for that matter.

Meanwhile, what the hell is the actress who plays Bree's daughter doing these days that's so important that we haven't seen her face for weeks now? Only the son seems to exist.

Is there maybe a giant invisible monster on Wysteria Lane that's kidnapping all of the teenage girls on this show?

GeekBoy at April 19, 2005 01:24 PM

Bree's daughter was spending the weekend at someone's house -- Andrew mentioned that.

Anyhow ... everyone that watches the show seems to be all hatin' on something. That's sort of the point. If we all hated everything about it, we wouldn't be watching. Clearly, everyone must like *something* about the damn thing, otherwise we wouldn't be watching.

I find Gabrielle's character horrid. I love Lynette and Susan. And I think Bree is an interesting character -- and Marcia Cross is amazing -- but she's unlikable.

You have to wonder if "Desperate" will pull a "Lost" and just knock off a few of the main characters. I mean, are they all under contract? Certainly it seems like at least *some* of the characters on the show are headed in a doomed direction (hi Paul and Zach, snoopy Mrs. Huber's Sister, Mike the Plumber, Andrew ... )

Incidentally, the "Vanity Fair" piece really only made it sound like Marcia Cross was the queen bitch in the cast. Maybe Marc Cherry has had enough and he'll decide to have Andrew mow down Bree in the season finale.

Keith at April 20, 2005 03:57 AM

Keith, I did notice the mention of Bree's daughter spending the weekend at somebody's house, but it seemed kind of tacked on. As if the writers realized how conspicuous the daughter's absence has been over the past 3 or 4 episodes, knew people were wondering, and said, "Let's just have the brother say she's at a sleepover or something." My guess (if the invisible monster theory is wrong) is that maybe they don't feel like paying that actress if the storyline is all about the son?

GeekBoy at April 20, 2005 09:15 AM
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