Personally I think the new neightbors keeping someone jailed in their basement storyline is freaking ridiculous. Feh.

Jane at September 26, 2005 10:14 AM

I know what you're saying, but when has this show not been ridiculous?

freakgirl at September 26, 2005 10:23 AM

Yeah, I'd say that if "ridiculousness" is the criteria on which to judge this show, it pretty much jumped the shark after the first few weeks, didn't it?

Honestly, I consider a prisoner in the basement more believeable than Bree changing dead Rex's tie or Lynette actually getting the job after changing her baby's diaper during the interview.

But it's all just campy fun, right? And since we don't know anything much about the neighbor yet, I'm willing to assume that whatever she's doing is consistent with her character, at least within the rules of the Camp Universe. If Mary Alice can kill a crack addict, chop her up in the kitchen, and bury her in a toy box under the pool, then why can't somebody have a prisoner in their basement? Where exactly is the fine line being crossed between those two?

GeekBoy at September 26, 2005 10:53 AM

Jane, I hope you don't think we're jumping all over you. :) A prisoner in the basement is very "Days of Our Lives," I think. I'd hate to see DH turn into a primetime version of a cheesy daily soap, you know what I mean?

freakgirl at September 26, 2005 11:03 AM

Watching last night, I was reminded how much I disliked Teri Hatchers storyline...and how much I missed gay matt over the summer.

I hope Lynette and Matt (much like Charlie Salinger on Lost, I can never remember his 'new' name) gets more screentime this season.

Todd at September 26, 2005 11:06 AM

Freak 'n Geek, I see what you guys are saying. I think what bothers me about this plotline is how much was revealed to us last night. I would have preferred more of a mysterious build-up to what Betty and her son brought to the neighborhood. You know, an episode or two where we see they won't let ANYONE in their house, then Susan seeing or hearing something through the window well as she is crouched down chasing after a wayward ferret or some such shit, etc.

You guys can jump all over me any time. :)

Jane at September 26, 2005 11:36 AM

Jane, I'm with you there. It was kind of a gratuitous reveal. What's weird is that I was partly hoping they'd show the face of the prisoner ... yet I knew that if they did, I'd be mad about it. Sometimes, the way they pace the revealing of things on this show is a bit inconsistent. For weeks, you'll get nothing useful at all, then they'll suddenly give you everything in one week. They need to take some notes from the writers of Lost on how to parcel out the goodies in a teasing, yet satisfying way.

GeekBoy at September 26, 2005 12:01 PM

Well this is sad, but when the son brought out the tray I said to my husband, "Oh they must have a prisoner locked up in a dungeon in their basement." Then when it was true he looked at me like I was crazy and wanted to know how I could have known that. I said, "It was pretty obvious, wasn't it? He had a TRAY for crying out loud!". He goes, "I thought the son was bringing the dinner to her (the mother)" and I said, "That's ridiculous! Why would he bring a tray of dinner to HER?"

He goes, "Yeah, bringing a tray of food to your mother is crazy, but having a prisoner locked up in the basement is an everyday occurance."

Hayley at September 26, 2005 12:17 PM

LOL, Hayley.

I have to say, I was with your hubby. I really thought he was bringing her food, and thought her response was a bit peculiar. It wasn't till she mentioned the gun that I finally caught on.

By the way, based on her responses, I got the impression that this isn't her "first time at the rodeo" when it comes to having somebody locked in a basement. All that talk about "nice touches". It might be the son's first time, but there's something about her that screams to me she's a professional at this.

So if it's not an ex-husband, then who could it be? Any guesses? I'm thinking it's a political figure, or somebody equally rich, and that this is a high-stakes kidnapping. Regardless, it's a good thing Lois Lane is on the scene to crack the case.

GeekBoy at September 26, 2005 12:52 PM

i thought last night was pretty good. the susan/mike storyline is starting to lose me a little bit, though. okay, so your future son-in-law tried to kill you + his daddy. oh well. gabrielle.. i agree. boring. LOVE lynette. felicity totally deserved that emmy. love her long time. i'm actually kind of intrigued by the prisoner storyline. obviously i am dorkish.

sar at September 26, 2005 12:53 PM

I heart Alfre Woodard. Last night's episode just left me wanting more, but I do think the prisoner in the basement may not hold my attention as much as the Mary-Alice storyline. As long as Bree and Lynette are on, though, I can deal with a far-fetched storyline.

And Shirley Knight! So wonderful last night with the luggage and the orange tie.

e at September 26, 2005 02:18 PM

The prisoner in the basement made me giggle. All I could think of was the movie NINE TO FIVE when Dolly Parton, Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin hold their boss (Dabney Coleman) hostage and take turns bringing him food on a tray.

Lara K-W at September 26, 2005 02:24 PM

Is it just me or did Bree's son look like a different kid?

lyndsy at September 26, 2005 02:49 PM

Decent haircuts can do wonders, Lyndsy.

I have a problem with the prisoner in the basement. I remember quite clearly at the end of last season when Edie was trying to get herself invited inside they discussed the fact that the Woodards bought the house sight unseen. Now, that's a dangerous thing to do when you plan on locking someone in the basement. Did they contact Edie and say, "We're looking for a lovely home on an idyllic street that just happens to have a dungeon. Oh, and neveryoumind why."

I guess they could have built it after moving in, but the door to the basment cell looked ancient. At least they went to the trouble of making the house look like it was old too, by showing the unfinished lath-and-plaster walls in the basement stairwell.

Who told Joely Fisher that her work attire was appropriate? I hope Lynette's baby shits on her. :)

I love how Bree's MIL's face looked so horrified when Bree changed Rex's tie, as if she didn't just do the same thing herself.

I am callous and cold...I hate Bongo the Dog. He just irritates the crap out of me. But if he ends up eating Susan, I can forgive him.

Maggie at September 26, 2005 03:02 PM

GB, I think the difference between the reveals on Desperate Housewives and Lost is that I think Lost has been written already. At least, I think there's a general idea of what's in the hatch, how it's going to end, who's going to die, etc. I get the feeling that the writers on DH are truly making it up as they go along. That's my problem, if I have one, with this show - it just seems - not just ridiculous or campy but sloppy and really spontaneous. Maybe it's improv, like Curb Your Enthusiasm?

Also, I think it has to be Alfre's husband, since the son said that he was dead and he's clearly not.

Joanne at September 26, 2005 03:13 PM

Joanne, not sure I agree with that theory. The son might have just said his father was dead as a way to seem sympathetic. Who knows, maybe the father just left them because the mother was a psychopath. Which is possible, based on the airy, detached, non-panicky attitude she seems to have about everything.

But as you say, there's a good chance that even the writers don't know yet. So it's hard to read too much about plot secrets by examining Alfre Woodard's performance.

GeekBoy at September 26, 2005 04:12 PM

As soon as I saw the tray I thought "Sante and Kenny Kimes starring in 'Jane Eyre'". Only it turned out to be the basement, not the attic.

That funeral discussion between Bree and her mother-in-law over when Rex was happiest - hit SOOOOO close to home. Painfully so.

Although in my real life, I had a "very close to the deceased" teen family member making out with his girlfriend during the wake - a real life DH moment if there ever was one.

Janet at September 26, 2005 05:39 PM

Hate to get all Hollywood on your guys, but there's no way the writers are making up the story as they go along. It's just not the way it works in the TV biz. In fact, I bet they have at least this entire season roughly mapped out and potentially some into next already. All shows are mapped out pretty far in advance, and especially one as successful as DH. When it's a "franchise show", all kinds of higher ups are involved in, at the every least, approval on the shows direction.

chuck at September 28, 2005 08:25 AM

Well, not to get all *Jersey* on you, Chuck, but I freaking knew that! Kidding! I just meant it *seems* thrown together at the last minute, like there is no kind of vision whatsoever with DH and I think there is with Lost.

Joanne at September 28, 2005 03:41 PM

I didn't like it. It seemed overly campy to me.
Bree marching around the funeral isles with her nose stuck out like a vulture..seemed a little over the top. And then Mike explaining the whole storyline of last season in less than a minute to Susan, and the lackluster reaction to their friend killing someone and kidnapping a baby, seemed weird.

andrea at September 28, 2005 10:35 PM
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