Look no further for the solution to this mystery than this screencap from "Death Becomes Her" ...


GeekBoy at October 10, 2005 10:07 AM

This show is losing me a bit to be honest. I'm still watching, but it's not as good as it was last season. But I digress, did the guy in Alfre's basement seem to have sort of mental disability or was it just me? Something about teh way he was screaming was not quite right, maybe it was the drugs and the fact that he's been chained up in a basement.

chuck at October 10, 2005 11:06 AM

I dunno...interesting theory, though.

I enjoy the show, but I agree, it's weaker than last season. I don't think they can recapture the first season, with all the mystery and everything. Plus the show was ridiculously over-hyped.

freakgirl at October 10, 2005 11:09 AM

I am now completely over this show. And regarding Lynette's boss: as someone who has had to pick up slack umpteen times for coworkers with kids, I find it ridiculous that expecting Lynette to actually do the work for which she's being paid is such a huge imposition. Plus, spilling blisteringly hot coffee on someone so you can go videoconference with your five-year-old? Not cute, not funny. Psychotic.

Did love Shirley Knight, though, and thought she deserved a better resolution of her storyline.

oolookitty at October 10, 2005 01:13 PM

Okay, in the middle of everybody complaining how crappy the show is now, can somebody please take a few seconds to laugh at how funny my first post was? Seriously, I took like 10 minutes to find that screen cap. The least you can all do is give me an insincere chuckle.


Now that I'm done patting myself on the back ...

Oolookitty, keep in mind that the show is meant to be a comedy, and a somewhat dark comedy at that -- along the lines of Seinfeld. The main characters are all weak and selfish ... and that's the point. Despite the soap opera format, it's really just one long sitcom -- "I Love Lucy" with four Lucy's.

Not sure it's worth taking personally.

GeekBoy at October 10, 2005 01:37 PM

I liked it, Geekboy. :)

Remy at October 10, 2005 01:49 PM

Geekboy -- I get that the show is supposed to be a comedy, and a satire at that. But it seems to me that it's turned into a satire of people who don't actually exist. These people have become so over the top, as have all the sitations they find themselves in.

And why is there no real interaction between the housewives anymore? I

I'm not really taking it personally, just finding it rather boring and disappointing.

And yes, freakgirl, did love your post about the necks!!!

OolooKitty at October 10, 2005 02:05 PM

I was surprised at how young, clean & well-dressed Basement Guy was.

I mean, his head was recently shaved and his clothes were neat at least. Couldn't see much beyond that.

brian w at October 10, 2005 02:12 PM

Geekboy, I liked the picture, too. :)

It's hard to have a real discussion about a show that is not even close to being real, but I don't think that Lynette is out of line wanting to take her kid to his first day of school. Meetings can be rescheduled, there are conference calls and netmeetings. Lynette's boss is being a rag because she hates the fact that Lynette has children and she's deliberately making it hard for her. That's how I see it, anyhoo.

freakgirl at October 10, 2005 02:13 PM

OolooKitty, the only reason I brought up the "taking it personally" thing is because you were making a correlation between Lynette and your slacking co-workers. I definitely agree that the show has gone increasingly over the top, to its detriment ... but that's all the more reason why I don't bother to take it seriously.

Having said that, I do actually think that the Lynette/Boss struggle does a pretty good job of capturing (satirically) the tension that often exists between parents and non-parents in an office workplace.

Speaking as a non-parent, as long as the parents I work with put in their time, I could care less if they work an irregular schedule or miss a meeting now and then. Because at the end of the day, I don't have to go home and help somebody with homework, or pay to put anybody through college. So it all balances out in the end, right?

GeekBoy at October 10, 2005 02:32 PM

I'm a smoker AND a parent. I'm never in my office :)

Actually in the Lynette storyline, I am on the boss' side though. She JUST started working there. Asking for all sorts of extra time off for personal reasons when you first start is annoying (Joely made mention to her doing this before.) I do like how they are showing Lynette struggling to be both a mom and a career woman. That storyline might be able to keep me. The rest, ehh?

Todd at October 10, 2005 03:30 PM

Susan is still queen of the "over-the-top" scenes; I find myself cringing when she pops up anymore.

Oolookitty said "And why is there no real interaction between the housewives anymore?" I agree - it's not the same without the bonding scenes. I wonder if that's the onset feuding?

And is every hit ABC show been asked to feature a mystery in a basement? Hmmm.

((As a fellow nonparent, I try to remind myself that someday I will need many doctors - and that person is likely someone's kid right now. So I'd like them to turn out well.

It also helps I feel entitled to take some time from time-to-time; Johnny's recital is not more important than my downtime. ))

Janet at October 10, 2005 05:08 PM

I agree with Todd regarding Lynette's storyline - I'm with the boss on this one. She JUST started working there, and she specifically promised that her kids would not interfere with her work schedule. Plus, didn't they imply that this was a very important meeting which she really needed to be at, not just some weekly marketing round-up or whatever?

How funny that John is already "in love" with Joan? The look on Gabby's face was hilarious.

Jane at October 10, 2005 05:17 PM

I'm finding the show is getting silly too (well, sillier than usual), but I'm still enjoying it.

I agree that Lynette spilling coffee on her boss is rather psychotic, but I loved her 3rd degree burns especially after she was screaming at someone to make the coffee hotter.

The whole "childless by choice" argument that came out of Joely's mouth really pissed me off. I agree that Lynette shouldn't be able to have all this extra time off, particularly at a new job, but the venom against people who have children is very aggravating. I have read "childless by choice" message boards before, and for a bunch of people who don't want anything to do with children, they sure do have a lot of time to dwell on the existence of children. Joely's character really captures the essence of these message board people, from my experience reading them.

I am a parent, and I missed my only child's first day of kindergarten because I had to work. At Ikea. Not even a cool career-type job, but part-time Ikea and I couldn't get out of it. So my mom took him to school. The kid still likes me. Sometimes you have to tell your kids, "Sorry, Mommy just can't." That's life. It's not like Lynette is a neglectful parent that she should really worry about missing one event in one of her children's lives. Big deal. That kid needs to buck up.

Maggie at October 10, 2005 09:04 PM

Bree's supposed to be unconsciously in love with George? Sooooo not buying it.

brigita at October 11, 2005 03:22 PM
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